Practicing Bagua

Here I describe the teachings of Master He Jing Han, 5th Generation practitioner of the BaguaQuan lineage. Much better sites for more info: http://www.baguaquan.idv.tw/ and http://www.baguadaoyin.com/he-jin-han.htm Purpose: for the students of Master He Jing Han and also for myself to discuss and record our own experiences in our practices. I would like to invite students to please comment on what I post. I must stress that I am a BEGINNER, and in no way try to present myself as an authority.

Friday, June 30, 2006

Lower Piercing Palm

ok this is a test to see how well video integrates into blogger.

Thursday, June 29, 2006

Q & A with He Laoshi: Time of day and practice

Q: I have a question: in a kungfu magazine article you said that beginners should not practice between 11am and 1pm. In Taiwan during our private lesson you told me I shouldn’t worry so much about the time of day. Does it depend on the type of training?

A: Dear Martin:
It is a very good idea on your web, you can post this information to public, let more people and students join this plane.
About the time 11~13 noon, if your blood and Qi can not calm down when you practice, it is better to avoid that period of time, but sometimes I choose that time to practice in the past to calm myself down, it depends on whether you know what you are doing.
HJH

** Thank you, He Laoshi, for your answer! So we need to be aware of ourselves, our mindsets, our mood, and bodily condition...and then adjust our training and purpose accordingly? If I'm overly energized, I should practice with the intention of calming down? And the opposite, if I feel a lack of energy, I want to energize myself through my training?

A: Sometimes we can (should) follow our body condition or mood to practice, so, yes, we need to be very aware of ourselves.
HJH

Wednesday, June 28, 2006

Small steps...

Noticed a difference in my circle walking today…having focused on ma bu the past few days is starting to show. When I step down, I notice I can pull up more with the rooting leg from the groin. The pulling is what gives me balance, and also what propels me forward into the next step. If I focus on every step, I don’t bend my knee and my leg is stable. My upper body is a little bit worse than before, but overall I see this as a step forward. Baby steps lead to bigger steps…in that case, I guess I’m a baby learning how to walk the circle  ;)

Monday, June 26, 2006

...and more Ma Bu

The assisted squatting and the dang principle are helping a lot. If I exert force downward through the floor and outward through both my legs equally, as if I want to strangle a bull with my legs while at the same time pressing out against resistance, I’m managing lower back and knees better than before. Still not good of course: my balance, straightening of the upper body while relaxing the  back and general posture still need lots and lots of work. I found several attempts several times per hour, not even long, help a lot. I stopped using a chair, so I stand at my desk. When I feel I need a seat, I do Ma Bu. That will keep me from wanting a chair, just happy standing thank you…;)

Morning Ma Bu

This morning I followed the initial advice more closely, to squat while holding onto something. Saturday and yesterday I tried, but I wasn’t doing them properly. I used a rope attached to a high bar, but it changes the gravitational pull somewhat. What I mean is that instead of getting only assistance for balance (falling backwards) it also releases pressure on the lower structure, so the feeling in the hips and legs isn’t there. However, today I felt a difference. I just held on to the doorpost, similar to how we would use a tree to hold on to. Thank you Vova, for reminding me about He Laoshi’s lesson about using ‘dang’ or arch between legs, the connection, or lack thereof, makes or breaks the stance. Now, how to transfer this to unassisted Ma Bu practice…I am more conscious of when my knees start to move forward a bit, since right away the feeling is different. Normally I wouldn’t notice unless my knee starts to ache. Just looking is one thing, but to be aware is another. Usually, the structure collapses due to letting go of tension in the right places. This happens before you can actually ‘see’ that something is wrong. So feeling for proper tension and relaxation in other areas such as the lower back, is what I’m looking for now.  

 

E-mail exchange with He Laoshi

My letter exchange with He Laoshi on 24/06/06 was the following:

 

Feel what you are doing is most important, you can correct yourself if you can feel, good progress.

            HJH


From: Martin Landsburg [mailto:cosmartin@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:04 AM
To: '
何馬'
Subject: RE: Practice

 

Dear He Laoshi,

 

Thank you for your prompt reply! Yes, as soon as I sent this letter this afternoon, I started to practice Ma Bu in a different way: not as long, but several times each hour to feel differences. I felt that as long as I can focus more on the hips, I can minimize the tension elsewhere in the body. Also, you told me to learn from example.  I’ve been looking at pictures of Yin Fu’s son, and some other pictures in the book, and looking at the videos. I feel an improvement already over this morning.

I’m now testing between slightly wider Ma bu stance and more narrow: in a wider stance, I notice I can control the qua more. However, I also notice that I can control the qua (pulling in tight) more if I go slightly lower than parallel to the floor…

Also, I notice that my balance is not so good on the front of the foot: I might fall backwards when trying to straighten my back. But if I lean forward, I am afraid my posture of the upper body is too far forward and my knees will point over my ankles.

More to work on!

Thank you He Laoshi,

Sincerely

Martin

 


From: 何馬 [mailto:baguaquan@giga.net.tw]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:47 PM
To: 'Cos Martin'
Subject: RE: Practice

 

Dear Martin:

You said:[ I am having knee problems and lower back pain now]

Try not let your knee further then ankle, not toe.

We will use too much strength on lower back if we sit low in the beginning, practice the squat exercise holding something, try to check which muscles you use and reduce them, try to feel the qua movement only, relax where you feel pain on squat position, tell me what happens.


From: Cos Martin [mailto:cosmartin@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:18 PM
To: Master He Jing Han
Subject: Practice

 

Dear He Laoshi,

 

I'm sorry I haven't been in touch the past weeks. I'm not sure what kind of questions to ask you. I feel I have nothing to base them on yet, because I need much more practice before I am able to ask intelligent questions.

But I want to share some of my experience. I noticed one of my bad habits was always to shrug my shoulders in low circle walking. One thing Alex had told me was that I should lean and let gravity twist my body, and thus the walking. So I asked Vova, who also told me that you said to lean as if looking around a tree. This is starting to help my posture, I think.

Also, I think I'm starting to feel more connection in the arm swings: when my shoulderblades are closer to my body, I feel they drop with the twisting of my hips, as two weights attached to ropes. At least in my idea, I think I should try to find this feeling?

Today I also felt that the basic gong-bu stepping on a line, which we did together in the park, needed some change. I noticed i step into a more stable gong bu if I pull the knee closer to my body. Is this correct? I watched the videos on youtube again and again, but I see I cannot keep my body upright enough.

Ok, back to practice...I'm sure all of this can be helped with more practice!

Oh, one problem: I am having knee problems and lower back pain now...I don't know what I'm doing wrong...I pay attention to keeping my knees not further than my toes, to pull in the tendons on the inside of the groin in ma bu, to lower my sacrum...But I keep having pains in my lower back and knees...I took some pictures, and yes they show my lower back is very tense. I try to relax by lowering the sacrum, but the muscles of the lower back pull me back again...Should I start my stance a bit higher? Now i keep my thighs parallel to the floor.

 

Sorry if I ask so many things at one time, He Laoshi. I'm working on getting to Taiwan soon. Now some visa issues, but of course not as bad as England!

 

With utmost respect,

Martin

 

 

Sunday, June 25, 2006

add a twist

From the basics of baguaquan page of http://www.baguaquan.idv.tw/

“A solid stance should keep solid, that means when we move our whole body, the stance ( ankle, knee, kwa ) shouldn't move or shake, when we walk on the circle, we twist our torso to the center, but the pelvis should still face to circle, if the stance follow the torso turn to same direction, there is no twist at all, a twist means one end of the twist keep steady while the other end twisting.”

From just an attempt at applying these principles, I feel that right away I notice differences: a more solid stance, and less strain on the knee, less hunching of the shoulders.

Ma Bu practice

Some issues with Ma Bu: knee and lower back pain, lack of balance.
Possible causes: not using the qua properly, trying to sit too low.

Response from He Laoshi:
Try not let your knee further then ankle, not toe.
We will use too much strength on lower back if we sit low in the beginning, practice the squat exercise holding something, try to check which muscles you use and reduce them, try to feel the qua movement only, relax where you feel pain on squat position, tell me what happens.

Response from Vova:

it's not balance, it's the structure, need train more of the leg's inner tendons and opening of kua. are you falling back?

check knees to know if the posture is right. But don't move your knees back. Knees are like litmus paper. You can check them and see if it is right. But that's all. to correct the posture check two things - kua and dang
sit on kua to have right posture, use dang to keep upright (not fall down)
because if dang is not used then either your torso leans forward or you tend to fall backwards
dang is what sifu calls arch in English
dang is chinese prononciation